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Re: SRS/SES mailing lists?

2004-11-11 11:18:56
Hi !!

Ok, I've read the SES specs.  I though I knew how it worked.  Nothing
you have said indicates that I don't.

I hope now you can see that is possible to run ses without having to
distribute keys.

Sure.  It is also *possible* to run an email system without using any
network at all by requiring everyone to use the same computer.

well, this is not anything you could argue against ses. which is nowthe proble you see now that it's clear that there is no need to distribute
keys ?

This, however, means that there are costs associated with SPF+SES that are
not associated with SPF+SRS.

well, my maths are not high level, but for me it costs less time and
resources to have ses implemented (including all roaming users) than the cost associated on convincing every forwarder in the world to
implement srs (which in turn is a thing that will never happen). Take
also in account that you could implement ses by yourself without the
need that everybody in the net support it, while with srs you have to
wait for every forwarder to support it before you could use spf to
protect your domain. How may years will take this ?

I still believe that the total cost for
all domains on the Internet of SPF+SRS is less than SPF+SES.

you are assuming that there is plenty of roaming users that do not use
their central smtp server which is wrong. We have lots of users in
different countries (spain, uk, switzerland, france, south africa)
and some really roaming (moving) users which never need to do direct
smtp delivery and never had any problem using the domain's mta. In the
other hand users (roaming or not) who do direct smtp delivery, usually run it's own mta or some advanced mua and are should be smart enough (if
they want to use ses) to install the ses signing and verification
software. If they do not want to use ses they are free to do that,
nobody forces them to use ses.

I believe that the cost of SPF+SRS+SES is less than either by using each
tool where appropriate.

the cost of using srs is always the same as you need all forwarders
in the world to support it. It's a cost in time as it will take many
years for it to happen, if it happens. I will really appreciate if
someone has a implementation statics on SRS that we could compare with
implementation of SPF ...

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Best regards ...

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