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Re: Re: DNS load research

2005-03-23 15:57:19
Guy wrote:

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Subject: Re: [spf-discuss] Re: DNS load research

On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 16:27 -0500, Radu Hociung wrote:


I forgot one thing:

After a few minutes of thinking how to fix this, admins figure out that
by setting their servers to not respond to TXT queries makes the problem
go away in seconds. UDP queries are not long lived, so if all TXT
records disapeared at the same time, it would take only a few seconds
for the storm to go away.

In other words, take SPF away, and the internet is back on its feet.

So how do you explain that SPF is not do blame?

Removing the SPF check stopped the virus from spreading?  Seems all
you've done is greased the channel it was using to propagate, since it
takes less time to use the same amount of bandwidth.

That is not what Radu said! He made no claim that the virus would stop,
just the DDOS attack.  In fact, he did not say the DDOS would stop, just
that the internet would be back on its feet.  Maybe not running, but
standing anyway.

Thank you Guy, that is exactly what I meant. In fact, removing the TXT records would only take the amplification factors away. At that point this virus would become as tame as any other.

Radu