Re: [spf-discuss] DKIM-SSP integration SPF

The problem is:
Before you can get an alliance, both parties need to want the alliance.

I am not sure what real benefit SPF has for the alliance, other then 
adding the overhead of DKIM.  SPF has a goal, and it accomplishes it, 
existing broken forwarding not withstanding.
As far as DKIM side wanting the alliance, I cannot speak for the DKIM 
folks, but I think one could certainly examine what they would have to 
benefit, and if their belief is that they are already the end all and be 
all of a solution, I don't think it will happen.
Terry Fielder
terry(_at_)greatgulfhomes(_dot_)com
Associate Director Software Development and Deployment
Great Gulf Homes / Ashton Woods Homes
Fax: (416) 441-9085



Hector Santos wrote:
> Did this mail get out? or is no one interesting in pursuing this SPF/DKIM
> future world?
>
> My point of view is that we will add many options to customers.  We
> currently offer:
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>   SMTP LEVEL:
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>      FILTER (Rule Based White/Black List Filter Scripting)
>      DNSRBL
>      SPF
>      CBV
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>   SMTP DATA LEVEL:
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>      MAILFILTER (Heuristics Scripting)
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> DKIM-SSP as a payload concept will be added to the SMTP DATA LEVEL.   Other
> systems will have post SMTP implementations.
>
> The question, if any, is there relationship between SPF and DKIM-SSP? If so,
> what is that?
>
> --
> Hector Santos, Santronics Software, Inc.
> http://www.santronics.com
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hector Santos" <spf-discuss(_at_)winserver(_dot_)com>
> Newsgroups: spf.-.sender.policy.framework.discussion
> To: "SPF-DISCUSS" <spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:02 AM
> Subject: [spf-discuss] DKIM-SSP integration SPF
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> > SPFers,
> >
> > If it has not already been done, I think it is fast approaching
> > the time the SPF community develop a clear picture on how it
> > will accept and live in a future DKIM-SSP world.
> >
> > SPF includes administrators, developers and vendors and together, we
> >     
> should
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> > work out the logic of how SPF can work with DKIM:
> >
> >     - how it can make DKIM-SSP better,
> >     - how DKIM-SPP can make SPF better.
> >
> > If this has been discussed, chatted, or debated, we should pound it out
> >     
> and
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> > document it into a official SPF-DKIM-SSP Integration IETF I-D document.
> >
> > Unless anyone else wants to do it, I volunteer to write the I-D document
> > once the interface requirements are worked out, which includes working
> >     
> with
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> > the final deposition of the DKIM-SSP design.
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> > Comments?
> >
> > --
> > Hector Santos, Santronics Software, Inc.
> > http://www.santronics.com
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