In <3E244CD9(_dot_)60209(_at_)Sonietta(_dot_)blilly(_dot_)com> Bruce Lilly
<blilly(_at_)erols(_dot_)com> writes:
Charles Lindsey wrote:
You claimed (and your words are still quoted above, preceded by ">>>>>")
that there was a design flaw in Usefor which involved "decoding
encoded-words for transmission". Will you please explain exactly where in
Usefor it is specified that any encoded-word is required (or even allowed)
to be "decoded for transmission".
Any raw untagged utf-8 in any header field is an example (that is exactly
what one would get if the properly tagged and encoded form which is legal
in header fields were decoded).
"Encoded-word" is a technical term defined in RFC 2047. It encompasses
objects of the general form
=?charset?encoding?data?=
Whilst an encoded-word might indeed be decoded into raw untagged utf-8
under some circumstance, it is totally illogical to claim that every
instance of "raw untagged utf-8" that one might encounter must therefore
have resulted from "decoding some encoded-word".
In fact, it is NEVER the case that any raw untagged utf-8 that results
from the Usefor draft will have arisen from decoding some encoded-word.
When such untagged 8-bit data (in general,
utf-8 in particular) is sent by a UA to a gateway (which is subsequently
expected to magically [re-]encode it), that is what I mean by "decoding
encoded-words for transmission".
Indeed, untagged 8-bit data can be sent to a gateway, but not "such"
untagged 8-bit data, because your "such" evidently has no antecedent.
So if you are claiming that sending untagged 8-bit data, which has never
been in the form of an encoded-word and has never been decoded from
anything, can then be described as "decoding encoded-words for
transmission", then all I can say is that you are living in
Humpty-Dumpty-land.
I have repeatedly invited you to indicate exactly where the Usefor draft
requires (or even allows) any encoded-word to be decoded (other than for
final display in a UA).
That invitation is still open.
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