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Re: [ietf-822] WSJ/gmail/ML, was a permission to...

2014-05-04 15:56:31
John Levine wrote:
No, all you need to do is admit that the mailing list server sent the
message that came from the mailing list server - so set that to be the
From/return-path.
Besides the semantic wrongness of this approach and the confusion
between envelope and header addresses, it has the severe practical
problem that the address of the actual author of the message no long
appears in a header, so there's no way to reply to her.

one obvious partial fix is a "originally-from:" header - I seem to have seen comments that Google Groups is adding an "x-originally-from" header to list traffic.

a longer-term fix would seem to be to get serious about an effort to develop SMTP2, or some such refactoring that incorporates authentication, integrity, and mailing list functions into the message format and SMTP state machine definition in a standard way (any ideas who might fund some focused work in that regard, the way ARPA and NSF used to fund protocol work?)

Miles Fidelman

--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra

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