At 8:32 PM -0800 3/27/03, william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Kee Hinckley wrote:
At 6:11 PM -0800 3/27/03, william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net wrote:
>Opt-out will not be effective all by itself.
Of the proposals we have seen so far, which would change the dynamics
of opt-out as I've described them?
The proposals offered so far are incomplete, that is why we all can not
decide on any one... But I'll tell general solution:
That's a very long wishlist. You've postulated a world where the
only people who send you non-opt-in email are either people who
bought your address from people who forced you to agree to let them
sell it, or people who can't seem to distinguish between the
different types of email they want to send you. You then see opt-out
as the way to stop that.
I don't see that that changes anything. Legitimize opt-out and all
companies will buy and sell email addresses. After all, you can
always opt-out.
And the technical issues (aging, timeout, validation, opting out
invalid email addresses...). Those still remain as well.
Frankly, opt-out scares the hell out of me.
But do go ahead and spell out the best possible system. If we
understand the problem technically then that gives us the ability to
shoot down bad proposals even before we get to the social argument.
Let's just try and keep those unintended consequences in mind.
--
Kee Hinckley
http://www.puremessaging.com/ Junk-Free Email Filtering
http://commons.somewhere.com/buzz/ Writings on Technology and Society
I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
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