Re: [Asrg] SMTP over SSL

I agree that what you're saying is certainly possible... if someone 
making $500,000 /yr. goes on a crusade for half the day, then the 
figures could be artificially inflated.
That having been said, I respectfully disagree.  I have purposefully not 
installed spam filters on the server I run, so that I can collect raw 
data for some research that I will (someday) do.  I currently receive, 
on average, about 50 pieces of spam mail a day, and it takes me about 
1-2 minutes to clean it out.  If you assume that everyone in the company 
I work for takes a similar amount of time (a reasonable assumption, I 
believe), then I do not believe that the cost comes from people spending 
time cleaning out there inboxes.
I don't have the spam statistics sitting by my side, but if we assume 
that each spam message takes 500 bytes - 1Kbyte, and each employee 
receives 50 spams a day, that is between 25-50Kbytes of space eaten up 
by spam, per day.  The company I work for employs 20 people, so that's 
roughly 500 Kbytes - 1Mbyte per day devoted to spam storage.  Now, make 
a couple of reasonable assumptions: first, assume that not everyone is 
conscious about emptying their trash (I have seem employees let their 
trash folders grow to be 50 Mbytes).  Second, assume that, instead of 20 
people, this company employs 200 people.  Clearly, the numbers can get 
quite big in a hurry.
***NOTE: we purposefully do not place limits on employees mailbox sizes. 
Executive decision made by someone with more authority than I have
I realize that I've done a lot of fuzzy math here, but that's beside the 
point.  It's not difficult to imagine this becoming a problem for an 
organization with thousands of mailboxes.  Furthermore, since most 
companies/ISP's do not actively block or reject e-mail (most move it to 
a spam folder, modify the subject line, etc.), the disk space and CPU 
cycles are still spent.
Eric

Vernon Schryver wrote:

> > From: "Eric S. Imsand" <eimsandasrg(_at_)charter(_dot_)net>
> >    
>  
>
> > According to the post by Paul Judge ("ASRG Meeting 
> > Minutes"), some organizations are estimating $1-$2 per 
> > piece of spam that gets through filters... that certainly 
> > is not .05 / month.
> >    
> I wasn't at the meeting, but I'm certain that $1-$2/spam has nothing
> to do with CPU cycles, disk space, network bandwidth or anything else
> done by computers.  It is the lost productivity or similar costs of
> having your most expensive employees (those who get the most spam)
> "just hit delete" or (worse) get angry and go on a crusade.
>
>
> Vernon Schryver    vjs(_at_)rhyolite(_dot_)com
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