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Re: [Asrg] 3. Requirements - Non Spam must go through

2003-07-08 01:58:33
Let me tell you what I do with SPAM. I don't think this is all the problematic.

In either C/R mode or Filter mode (I use Cyrus with Sieve to support this) I move messages that I expect into my Inbox. The first line of defense in my system is the C/R system. When I join a list or want email from someone I setup the C/R system to bypass it's work by adding the appropriate email addresses (and where I expect to see them - To, CC, etc). If the address is in the list, no C/R is required. If the address isn't in any list, a challenge is issued. If the response is given, it moves into the inbox. If no response is given within a day the message is put in to the Junk folder. If a response is given it is moved into the inbox.

When I log in to my account the spam filters run (I use the Mozilla email reader that supports Bayesan filtering). When the filter catches it goes into the Junk folder. Everything else stays in the Inbox. What has this done: I normally reject 99% or better of spam; I get 4-5 in my inbox. I spend a few minutes to figure out what happened - how it got through - and mostly adjust my filters. Yes, occassionally I do find valid messages in the Junk folder, and for those I also train the filter to not pick them up.

Now it isn't a perfect system - it won't catch all spam and mark it as such. It will tag certain valid messages as spam (for instance the filters originally put all messages from ASRG that had SPAM in the hearder into the Junk folder! lol). But with a little work it does get rid of the problem, as far as I am concerned.

Chuck Wegrzyn



Jon Kyme wrote:

Just ran across this quote from the John Gilmore of the EFF (http://www.politechbot.com/p-04927.html):


----snip----
After years of divisive discussions, a very similar pledge/oath/policy
was
what EFF was able to come to agreement on:

"Any measure for stopping spam must ensure that all non-spam messages
reach
their intended recipients."

Perhaps none of us has yet come up with a silver bullet to solve the problem of spam -- but it IS within our power to solve the problem of
overzealous anti-spam measures.
----snip----

Unless my "anti-spam" system is perfect, there must be no silent
false-positives for this to be true. Either a sender whose message is not
delivered because of the action of some "anti-spam" system must be able to
know this. And be able to find out what they can do about it.
(This is a very strong argument for "spam" rejection to happen during the
SMTP - or whatever - transaction; we don't want to be sending DSN or
challenges to forged senders.)
Or, the "receiver" must be be informed that the message hasn't been
delivered, and be able to do something about it (but this imposes a cost on
the receiver).






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