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RE: [Asrg] 6. Proposals - depracate all list/bulk mailing and changeto RSS

2003-12-02 19:46:29

Chris wrote..

Are you going to force the airline companys to set up a feed for me?
(RSS)


Walter replied..

  For much the same reason we had to shut down open relays... the answer
to your question is "yes".  They were convenient, but were also massively
abused.

Any attempt to force someone to do something is destined to fail.
If the current system works for them then they won't change.

so we have to change the current system.
not try to force people to use another system.

And since when have we managed to shut down open relays?

e-mail is a one to one or one to many. that is the way it was designed
how can we change that?

Most e-mail is not "blasted out onto the internet" as you say. but is in
fact customised to suit the individual recipient even if it is just a web
bug to track if the person opened the e-mail in a html capable reader.

so essentially that becomes a one to one mailing.


Regards
Chris




-----Original Message-----
From: asrg-admin(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
[mailto:asrg-admin(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org]On Behalf Of
Walter Dnes
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:52 PM
To: ASRG list
Subject: Re: [Asrg] 6. Proposals - depracate all list/bulk mailing and
changeto RSS


On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 05:22:42PM +1030, Chris wrote

I don't want to have to keep reminding myself to "check my feed" or
have YAP(yet another app) on my desktop and they don't do RSS anyway

Are you going to force the airline companys to set up a feed for me?

  For much the same reason we had to shut down open relays... the answer
to your question is "yes".  They were convenient, but were also massively
abused.  A one-to-one answer to a question is one thing.  Big email
shotgun blasts aimed at the entire internet are totally another.

  Some time ago, I made a rather sarcastic posting defying marketeers to
set up their own "unfiltered ISP", and watch current big ISPs collapse
overnight as millions of "eager double-opt-in-subscribers" defect to the
marketeers' ISP in order not be deprived of their newsletters.  It looks
more reasonable as time goes on.  With all the complaints about false
positives, why don't people set up unfiltered ISPs ?  Why doesn't
someone put up or shut up ?

--
Walter Dnes <waltdnes(_at_)waltdnes(_dot_)org>
Email users are divided into two classes;
1) Those who have effective spam-blocking
2) Those who wish they did

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