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Re: [Asrg] Blacklisted from posting to asrg

2005-06-06 07:44:39
At 5:58 AM -0700 6/6/05, vwl(_at_)elan(_dot_)net wrote:
Apparently the ASRG chair has decided to blacklist me from posting on my primary address as constructive technical critique of his own proposal and its security weaknesses is not something he can deal with and is good enough reason to blacklist one of the largest contributors to ASRG who has been here from the beginning (and of course he also failed to mention to me or on the list that I was blacklisted from posting to the list).

On what basis do you believe this?

I see a post from you about BATV on the list yesterday with these headers:

Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:39:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: "william(at)elan.net" <william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net>
To: John Levine <asrg(_at_)johnlevine(_dot_)com>
Subject: Re: [Asrg] Re: BATV and SES - was forged bounces
In-Reply-To: 
<20050604173551(_dot_)20008(_dot_)qmail(_at_)xuxa(_dot_)iecc(_dot_)com>
Message-ID: 
<Pine(_dot_)LNX(_dot_)4(_dot_)62(_dot_)0506041050180(_dot_)17965(_at_)sokol(_dot_)elan(_dot_)net>
References: 
<20050604173551(_dot_)20008(_dot_)qmail(_at_)xuxa(_dot_)iecc(_dot_)com>


I also see 2 tests, one from william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net:

Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: "william(at)elan.net" <william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net>
To: asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Message-ID: 
<Pine(_dot_)LNX(_dot_)4(_dot_)62(_dot_)0506051757360(_dot_)2487(_at_)sokol(_dot_)elan(_dot_)net>


and one from vwl(_at_)elan(_dot_)net, apparently with no From header until it was added by the list server:

From: vwl(_at_)elan(_dot_)net
Received: from sokol.elan.net ([216.151.192.200])
        by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DfHSJ-0000Ao-7q
        for asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:15:52 -0400
Received: from sokol.elan.net (sokol [127.0.0.1])
        by sokol.elan.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j56CsGLw027838
        for <asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:54:16 -0700
Received: from localhost (vwl(_at_)localhost)
        by sokol.elan.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id j56CsFs6027834
        for <asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:54:16 -0700
X-Authentication-Warning: sokol.elan.net: vwl owned process doing -bs
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:54:15 -0700 (PDT)
To: asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Message-ID: 
<Pine(_dot_)LNX(_dot_)4(_dot_)62(_dot_)0506060542340(_dot_)19056(_at_)sokol(_dot_)elan(_dot_)net>


You're more then welcome to comment now how appropriate this was on or
off the list. But in the mean time I'm going to contact IRTF Chair to get this ban removed and request that different list moderorator be assigned.

You might want to be sure that there is a 'ban' before you go off complaini9ng to anyone about one.


P.S. Probably would mean you'd have to wait a bit longer to hear about
my paper, which is quite good and likely of interest to many here.
The delay is not my fault obviously.

Not so obvious from here, given that you've not apparently had any problem getting 5 messages delivered to the list from your supposedly banned address in the past 60 hours, but might well be having some sort of problem knowing that you've had such success in delivery.


--
Bill Cole bill(_at_)scconsult(_dot_)com


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