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Re: [Asrg] Round 2 of the DNSBL BCP - "collateral damage"

2008-04-02 22:13:18
David Cawley wrote:

Just my 2c and I'd like to thank all of you working on the document.

I'd like to thank everybody here to making this a rather more productive 
process than I had feared <grin>.

We seem to be converging reasonably well to something that most people 
can at least tolerate.  Can't ask for much more than that.

There seem to be three specific issues under discussion at this point:

- using the right terminology to make the document inclusive of RHSBL, 
URIBL, DNSWL etc, but not necessarily things like routeviews.  I'm going 
to put a couple of paragraphs at the end of the intro expanding "DNSBL" 
as "DNS-Based List" for the purpose of the document, noting the 
alternate expansions in use, briefly describe DNSB[lack]L, RHSBL, URIBL, 
DNSWL as in-scope (have I missed something?), and other more 
"informational, not good/bad indicator" things like ISIPP and Routeviews 
as generally out of scope, but who MAY consider some of the items in the 
BCP as best practise anyway (eg: test, shutdown).  Also some wording 
about users can use them as an absolute (or one factor) block/whitelist 
or a scoring contribution.

[meta: Is it going to be a problem that the IETF document file name has 
"blacklist" and not "dnsbl"?  Leave it alone or change?  If I were to 
change it, I assume that means that it's effectively a brand-new 
document and the revision number reverts to 01.

- "functional signaling" procedures for domain-based DNSBLs.  I could 
either suggest example.com, suggest 127.0.0.2, or punt ("no common 
mechanism is apparent, make one up and document it so that users can 
automate testing if they wish").  I'm inclined to 127.0.0.2 because 
domain-based lists can do it just as easily as IP-based ones.  Are there 
strenuous reasoned objections to that?

- Material about collateral damage - terminology used, etc. It seems 
clear that most think that something has to be said.  I'm going to 
reread the list comments and take another run at that section.  So, it 
may be worth stopping the current threads on it and wait for my new attempt.

If things go as I plan, I will be putting the new draft up on the IETF 
site in a few days.  It will be "02" there, but in order to disambiguate 
  it from the current 02 discussion from the emailed copy, I'll kick off 
discussions with a subject line saying "02A" which will help me 
distinguish the subsequent discussion.

[Or will the IETF accept me calling it 03?]

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