Re: [Asrg] Email Postage (was Re: FeedBack loops)

The post office can do postage because it alone offers the service and 
can verify the postage, whether you print it or not.
In email, how will this work?  Who does the verification?  If it's the 
recipient system, this is NOTHING LIKE postage, which is verified by the 
sending transport.   If it's the sending system in email, then as a 
spammer, I'd just not do that check.  The post office provides a 
centralized service, whereas email goes about its business without any 
such centralization or agreements between POs of different countries.  
Same goes for telephone service that was used before as a poor analogy.
You keep saying they are all arguments against postage are "strawmen," 
which itself is tiring of you, but why don't you do a bit more research 
on it and propose something substantially thought out and then we can 
discuss it. 

Clearly these pointless emails we're sending are not moving the idea 
forward in your opinion, and certainly they are not in mine, so more 
details need to be worked out before you bring it up for discussion.  
Nobody builds consensus or a new standard through point/counterpoint 
email exchanges with zero details and no blueprint spec.  Some real work 
should be done first, making a reasoned proposal that others can then 
review and consider its merits.  The best standards are ones that are 
shown to work in practice first, not in advance.  There are many good 
ideas, especially standards created before being built, that turn out 
less than stellar in practice or worldwide acceptance (WEP, much OSI, 
CORBA....).
And like my company does, there are lots of messaging platforms that 
work well and have no spam/virus/bot issues and are in the marketplace 
now.  These are not international standards (yet?) and certainly are not 
replacements for today's email.  But work progresses....
David

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