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Re: [ietf-dkim] New Issue: Base: Upgrade indication and protection against downgrade attacks

2006-02-16 10:05:25


Dave Crocker wrote:
Folks,

If you can't rank algorithms, is there any meaningful concept of a
"downgrade attack"?

I'm sort of wondering though if Mark's problem here might be just as
easily solved by having a "current"/"next" kind of routine. That is,
only allow two in play at any one time, ...


I keep coming back to the very limited goal of DKIM and wondering whether the concern about a downgrade attack isn't just a little too esoteric for that goal.

Besides that presumably, having multiple signature versions, as discussed here, is only for transition times.

Do we really need to engineer such fine-grained mechanisms for protection against attacks during limited windows of mis-opportunity, for a mechanism that is only trying to aid in determining whether to deliver a message?

I think that that's a fair question.

I believe we do need to have signature algorithm agility of some sort
for the reasons to do with hash weaknesses and also since there will
always be >1 favorite algorithm in a big world.

This scheme (or similar) may be a part of the way to provide that
agility. For now though, I don't understand well enough whether we
should worry about downgrade attacks when signing more than once.

Stephen.



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