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Re: [ietf-dkim] SSP = FAILURE

2006-09-09 11:54:21

On Sep 9, 2006, at 10:40 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:

On Saturday 09 September 2006 13:26, John Levine wrote:
The best way to help end-users avoid getting phished it to not accept
phishing messages for delivery.  DKIM-SSP where strict policy
statements are published offer a mechanism for this.

I get a message from security(_at_)ebay-verify(_dot_)com(_dot_)  It has a valid
signature.  I check the SSP for ebay-verify.com, which says "MAJOR
PHISHING TARGET, ACCEPT ONLY WITH SIGNATURE."  So I drop it into the
recipient's mailbox with a gold star on it.

What have we just accomplished?

A bad thing.  Don't put the gold star on it.  That would be a mistake.

That's right.

And, _within the framework we're discussing here_, it's equally
true for mail from any other domain.

I think that that quite strongly demonstrates that discussing
phishing and SSP at the same time is pretty pointless, as SSP
is all about self-declaration, and people who send phish emails
tend not to tell the truth.

Any value DKIM has w.r.t. phishing is to provide a strong proof
of the identity of the sender, allowing some external third
party to verify that it's really a bank / D&B certified business /
registrar / or what have you.

Cheers,
  Steve

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