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Re: [ietf-dkim] list vs contributor signatures, was Wrong Discussion

2010-05-07 13:10:15
I believe it.  Are you saying the list managers make no effort to keep
the spam out of their lists?

No, but I don't think it's their job. As the site manager, that's my job in 
general. What the list managers can add is access controls, and 
authentication helps to improve the utility of such controls.

Oh, we agree there, I wasn't distinguishing between the list and site 
manager, since at small sites they're often the same person.

contributors, but DKIM doesn't help there since DKIM most definitely
never says that the From: address is "real".

"real"? A signature from the sender domain at least says that if it's not 
real, that's the responsibility of the sender domain owner, doesn't it?

No, all it says is "we signed this mail."  A signer with a good reputation 
will presumably rarely sign mail where the From: address actively 
misidentifies the sender, but that's a second order effect.

the end recipient may have a very different view of the reputation of 
the sender than does the list. Or, it may wish to use the message 
content to modify its reputation score for the sender.

Once again, this sounds like a solution searching for a problem.  I've 
done the occasional bozofiltering in mailing lists, but because the people 
were bozos, not spammers.

If you want strong sender authentication, we already have S/MIME, and I 
wouldn't be surprised if there were list software that could use it.

R's,
John
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