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Re: [ietf-dkim] more on discardable, was Lists "BCP" draft

2010-05-25 10:01:20


--On 25 May 2010 01:38:53 +0000 John Levine <johnl(_at_)iecc(_dot_)com> wrote:

Refusing signups from those domains is probably a bit extreme, though.

What about a warning at signup time if a "discardable" ADSP record is
found for the registrant's domain?

That doesn't help.

It doesn't help if this is instead of rejecting the mail. But I don't think 
that was the intention. A message to this effect might be very useful: 
"You've joined the list, and will get messages from it. However, you can't 
post to the list using your email address because..."

Now, if the subscriber doesn't intend to post to the list, they're fine. If 
they do, then surely it's helpful to warn in advance that they can't.

In the IETF's scenario, domain A sent mail which
was marked discardable to the list, and recipients at domain B were
rejecting it and the people at B got bounced off the list.  I'd have
to squint awfully hard to come up with an argument that it is wrong to
reject unsigned discardable mail at SMTP time.

Since ADSP causes problems for innocent bystanders, I think it's
reasonable to decline A's mail in the first place.  This is doubly
true since the ADSP RFC rather specifically says that you shouldn't
mark a domain discardable if its users send mail to lists.

R's,
John
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