On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 00:14 +0200, Jose Marcio Martins da Cruz wrote:
I don't think mailing lists is a real problem, for many reasons :
- there aren't too many mail listing programs available, and I'm quite
sure ML developpers are really open to include this kind of feature into
their packages. I know one of them personnally (Sympa - Serge Aumont),
and I think I can say, he will integrate some kind of authentication as
soon there will be one available.
Not retrospectively in existing deployments he won't.
- mailing list messages aren't the highest priority kind of trafic.
Our viewpoints are radically different here. We need to be able to
reject incoming mail at SMTP time, reliably. There's no place for
sentiments such as "it doesn't matter because it's not high priority
mail we're wrongly binning". IMHO.
- I don't see a real deployment problem here. There are much fewer
mailing list servers than general purpose servers. So, there are much
fewer mail list servers to upgrade than general purpose mail servers.
There's still a huge deployed base. I really don't think we can just
ignore it. That isn't a workable strategy.
- And on the other hand, mail list server administrators have, most of
the time, higher skills than general purpose mail servers.
I find your faith in sysadmins.... disturbingly misplaced.
Working in the real world, today, is _not_ optional for whatever scheme
we settle on; it's mandatory. We _can't_ require third parties to
'upgrade' to follow us. We mustn't make the same mistake which has been
made elsewhere.
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dwmw2