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Re: simplicity, focus and adoption; what problem are we trying to solve?

2004-10-29 05:39:42

On Oct 28, 2004, at 10:37 AM, Dave Crocker wrote:
There is no automatic requirement that the recipient user see anything
about the signature.

Says you.  This group has no requirements at all.  :)

On Oct 28, 2004, at 11:39 AM, Michael Thomas wrote:
Dave Crocker writes:
The mailing list  processor is responsible for injecting the message
into the transfer service.  Therefore the only signature that is valid
for mail coming from it is the mailing list signature.  The original
authors are not accountable for the potentially arbitrary behavior of
mailing list processors.

I completely disagree. Mailing lists are nothing more than
special types of forwarders.

I don't think there is any consensus in the broader IETF community on the role of a mailing list. It is not an MTA but it is also not an MUA. I've seen these arguments before and this has never been resolved.


On Oct 28, 2004, at 1:06 PM, Robert Barclay wrote:

I would actually go one step further here and say that it is a specific
goal that the output of the mailsig mechanism is transparent to any MUA
that has not been specifically designed to know what to do with it. For
most normal users (the ones, as receivers, most in need of this kind of
protection) attachments they do not recognize or extra unrecognizable
text in the body of a message makes the message appear less trustworthy
rather than more.

I understand your concern, but "any"? If it is to be "any MUA" then we might as well stop now. I think "most common MUAs" is a better goal.

-andy

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