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Re: Want a BoF at IETF 62?

2004-12-28 13:29:17


On Dec 28, 2004, at 11:56 AM, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:

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Another question to think about is whether the IETF really wants to make a fifth attempt in the email signature area, so far it has done PEM, MOSS, PGP
& S/MIME.

I think that what we have here is an application protocol rather than a core infrastructure platform. The IETF has never been that comfortable at the application layer, particularly the consumer facing part of it. How is an organization going to work out best security practices for HTML email when
the majority of the members cannot see the value of the idea?

I have a very clear idea of what I want to achieve and I believe that my view of the problem to be solved and the approach to solving it is shared by the majority of the application oriented people. I also believe that there is simply no point in trying to explain the value of that concept to network
focused people who use elm or pine as their mailer.

Why resort to an ad hominem argument? I read this stuff as the worst legacy
of some antispam lists.  It dumbs down the discussion.

Mark

The crypto packaging and some of the keying infrastructure is the only part of this problem that is within the scope of what the IETF is comfortable addressing. Most of the design decisions and most of the specification work that needs to take place is in the user interface and human factors space.

Having just gone through the MARID experience I have no desire to start
another standards effort on the same topic and with the same cast of
characters in the same forum.



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