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Re: some thoughts on SUBMITTER

2004-07-09 01:08:47

Meng,


MWW> I would like to suggest we keep in mind:
MWW>   Where the mass majority of normal email is concerned,
MWW>   forwarding is an edge case.
MWW>   Failure of SenderID due to noncompliant forwarding is a
MWW>   corner case.

I would like to suggest that we keep in mind:

  We do not have statistics about the extent of use of forwarding
  scenarios, although we do know that it is used quite a lot, by many
  people and in a variety of ways.

  Changing a legitimate practise that has widespread use tends to be a
  good way to get the community to reject a proposal.

So, let me suggest that trying to marginalizing the problems caused
with forwarding scenarios is not such a good idea.


MWW> We should also keep in mind the positive scenario for SenderID:

Perhaps you are suggesting modifying the specification -- by the way,
are talking about marid-core? if not, then what specification are you
discussing? -- to explicitly list the scenarios for which it works
well, that is, the ones for which it is not problematic? That would be
very helpful.


MWW> The positive scenario is the scenario we are trying to enable.

Right.  Unfortunately, global standards usually need to work across
the entire architecture of the service they are modifying.


MWW> I also want to point out that SUBMITTER:
MWW>  - should appear rarely,

this is because you believe that rfc2821.mailfrom and
rfc2821.submitter will usually be the same?


MWW> * SUBMITTER should appear rarely.
MWW> SUBMITTER need not be used when the MAIL-FROM is identical
MWW> to the Sender.  This is a very common case.

So you do not mean that the syntactic form should appear rarely, not
that the semantics of submitter-based authentication and authorization
should get used rarely?

But the semantics are the issue, not the syntax.




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