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Re: [ietf-smtp] [Shutup] Proposed Charter for the "SMTP Headers Unhealthy To User Privacy" WG (fwd)

2015-12-11 09:31:54
On 11/12/2015 14:30, Martijn Grooten wrote:
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 01:28:17PM +0000, Paul Smith wrote:
No, it was the IP address of a 'user' from the ISP's point of view.
Ah yes, I see now.

I think a good ISP should show its customers which IP addresses were
used to log into the mail server.
Yes, a good ISP probably should.

Can you tell me one who does?

When you have all ISPs/MSPs doing that, and all of them having at least one person who understands at least RFCs 5821 and 5822 on their customer support staff, and all of them having a human who will respond in a timely fashion to support or abuse requests, THEN maybe we can start looking at what that will allow us to remove from trace information.

In my experience, most ISPs (especially the popular ones) currently fail on all three of those things.

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