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Re: Netmeeting - NAT issue

2002-03-18 09:20:03
Peter Ford wrote:
If one really believes in end to end architectures, then one probably
would want generalized protocols for supporting hosts telling the
network what to do wrt opening holes at NATs/Firewalls for inbound
traffic.

Actually, if one believes in the E2E arch (more specifically, the STD documents), we should admit that:

        - NATs are _designed_ to make everything behind them
        look like a single host

        - they work fine exactly where that's sufficient

        - they break very badly for EVERY new protocol that
        coordinates ports or IP addresses in-band, and in any
        other case where everything behind them does NOT
        want to work like a single host

A generalized protocol for opening holes would fundamentally alter the Internet architecture (as specified in the STD docs) to _require_ path setup, which defeats dynamic routing, and, more specifically, the fundamentally connection-free property of datagram service.

Joe



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