Michael Richardson wrote:
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>>>>>"Harald" == Harald Tveit Alvestrand writes:
Harald> 2/ establish a long-term area: decide that the SUB-IP
Harald> area will be a long-term one, clearly define its charter, and
ask the
Harald> nomcom to select one or two people to be Area Directors
Harald> 3/ status quo: continue the SUB-IP Area as a temporary,
Harald> ad-hoc effort, much as it has been, with the IESG selecting
two sitting
Harald> ADs to continue the effort that Bert & Scott have been doing.
But maybe
Harald> give more responsibility to the working group's technical
advisors,
Harald> normally the AD from the area where the working group might
otherwise
Harald> live.
I prefer #3 for the next year.
The problem with #3 is that there is no timeline of any sort in this option.
While option #1 (quoted below) sounds severe, it does not close all the door
for Sub-IP. It just forces IETF as a community to rethink whether those
remaining wgs (or anything else people come up with then) belong to IETF or not,
and if they do, where. I believe this was why the Sub-IP area was marked
temporary when it was created; to force us to re-examine the issues now.
1/ move WGs (back) to permanent areas: migrate the SUB-IP
working groups to other IETF areas sometime soon, likely before next
summer and close the SUB-IP area. Also, reconstitute the SUB-IP (and/or
other) directorates to ensure the continued coordination between the
remaining WGs.
Status quo (#3) merely delays this discussion indefinitely because of the
lack of a timeline and, as Grenville pointed out in his email, no protection
against adding new wgs into Sub-IP area.
I prefer option #1, and if there are reasons IETF should have a Sub-IP
area, they should be argued assuming the area is closed.
yushun.
However, I would prefer that we change:
IESG selecting two sitting ADs to continue
to
IESG selecting two people as ADs
That is, the IESG could select people who aren't currently sitting ADs. (or
they can select sitting ADs)
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Yu-Shun Wang <yushunwa(_at_)isi(_dot_)edu> Information Sciences
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University of Southern California