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Re: CLOSE ASRG NOW IT HAS FAILED

2003-06-16 11:54:50
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 01:56:10PM -0400, Dean Anderson allegedly wrote:
I think this is just a smokescreen. The real problem is that it didn't
get the outcomes desired by a certain group.  It has nothing
whatsoever to do with scaling. Democracy scales just fine.

On 16 Jun 2003, Paul Vixie wrote:

What happened to open and inclusive?

it didn't scale.  but, rather than change the written rules, more
emphasis has been put on "design teams" and "directorates" in order
to get work done in ways the written rules don't cover.  note that i
think this is bad, and that the written rules should be changed, and
then followed, and that the way things are trying to get done now
has scaled even less well than before.

The original issue was that he felt like "they" were imposing an IPR
policy on him "from above".  The IETF IPR policy, which ASRG was copying
from, has been worked out over more than ten years with lots of input
and a number of iterations.  This has nothing to do with democracy or
design teams.