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Re: CLOSE ASRG NOW IT HAS FAILED

2003-06-17 11:26:09
I was one of the ga-full subscribers.  I thought it was a great mistake
not to archive it -- further institutionalizing the idea that only
approved persons could speak, and creating a santized public record.  The
calculus was different for ICANN, as it's quasi-governmental in a way the
IETF is not, so what was necessary there might not be necessary here.

I sould also note that ICANN killed the ga-full list with no discussion
and essentially no notice.

The ga-full list, as used by ICANN, certainly served to silence people,
but not quite exactly in the manner described below.

On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:



--On mandag, juni 16, 2003 12:45:34 -0600 Vernon Schryver 
<vjs(_at_)calcite(_dot_)rhyolite(_dot_)com> wrote:

The suggestion of having two lists, one filtered and a second named
whatever-noise, both with open archives, sounds fine to me, but wouldn't
help the ASRG case.  I think that the ASRG case would be instantly
resolved if the moderator would publish all of the rejected messages
and related corresponce without any additional commentary...not that
I think there's any case there, but passers-by might not have seen the
first several weeks of traffic in the ASRG mailing list not to mention
those "courtesy" copies I mentioned.

the ICANN DNSO GA list operated with "ga" and "ga-full" lists ("full" being 
all spam, crosspostings and postings from moderated posters in addition to 
the normal list traffic).

the ga-full list was, I believe, not archived.

it served to silence the complaints that it wouldn't be possible to see if 
moderation was fair or not, which richly repaid the work of setting it up - 
I think it had approximately 5 memebers.

               Harald




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