Vernon
Are you suggesting that we would need a new working group
to allow 2629 conformant xml to be optionally submitted with
text to the I-D archive?
Why?
I'm not proposing any new RFC. Guidelines to authors is not
an RFC. 2629 is an RFC.
The xml2rfc tool, which is not the only tool around, but it's
a good one, puts a 70 line style header in front of the text,
but then has almost no other "bloat" that I can see. Is that
too much?
I don't think there is any "cruft" at all in the xml described
in RFC2629.
Now, to the charge that this is feeping creaturism, we must
admit guilt. I think there is some value in this proposal.
Many seem to agree.
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: Vernon Schryver [mailto:vjs(_at_)calcite(_dot_)rhyolite(_dot_)com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:16 AM
To: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: A modest proposal - allow the ID repository to hold xml
From: Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon(_at_)orthanc(_dot_)ab(_dot_)ca>
...
[*] The critical aspect is that the DTD *must* be kept
simple. If the DTD
evolves into a Turing machine with Perl-like syntax we can just
acknowledge that it's time to shut down the IETF and go
home. I cling to
the forlorn hope that people still know - and more importantly,
understand - what the 'E' in IETF stands for.
I don't know about shutting down the IETF, but I do know that in
this century you've stated the compelling reason to run screaming
from this set of proposals.
Have you looked at the 250 lines of XML cruft that Microsoft thinks
are required to accompany a 1 word mail message today?
Have you ever glanced at the incredibly bloated and broken HTML
that most HTML mark-up tools produce?
Now recall the galloping freeping creaturism of the last 3
I-Ds you've read.
A "Turing machine with Perl-like syntax" would be incomparably simpler
and cleaner than the result of the 5 years work of the new working
group in the new area. (What--you don't realize that a new working
group would be required?)
Vernon Schryver vjs(_at_)rhyolite(_dot_)com
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