On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 09:21:44AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
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This happens on the sub-IP layer and hasn't got to do much with ISPs.
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You get what you pay for.
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Same here.
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You can't get reliable multicast service anywhere in the world.
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It's not a real problem to get native IPv6 over ADSL or SDSL.
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Which one is that?
The case you are writing about does *not* block 25/TCP on the TCP/IP
layer.
It's true that certain extremely cheap products don't offer that much
Internet or Service. These products are marketed aggressively and are
usually sold at a loss. Nobody forces you to buy them.
You missed the point. This is not about complaining that I don't get
enough for the money. This is that I don't know in advance what
I do get for my money.
"Nobody forces you to buy them" is true only as long as I do
know what exactly they offer and as it is my decision to buy
it or not. But if I buy "Internet" and don't see what I'm
buying, then I don't have the choice.
I do not want to blame anyone for selling NAT access.
I want him to give a clear statement about what he is
selling.
regards
Hadmut
(And, btw, some of the statements are incorrect.
- Some providers intentionally cut their customers
off after 24 hours in order to force them to have
a new IP address.
- It is a real problem to get native IPv6 over DSL
in Germany. Some providers simply don't want to
provide IPv6, because they say "Internet" is IPv4.
)
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