Re: How the IPnG effort was started

Joel,

Well, in most Pacific Islands, there is only one operator who is nearly 
fully owned by the government, so the words "sole ISP" and "country" can 
be interchanged. The countries there are islands, physically and virtually.
When we try to apply for address space, we are usually told to apply 
from the upstream ISP, but in this part of the world it is real easy to 
change upstream ISP every year due to satellite link. Therefore to avoid 
to redo the whole network IP every time pricing changes, it is better to 
assign a set to a "country" whose population is around 100,000 people 
more often less than that.
Cheers

Joel M. Halpern wrote:

> I am missing one thing.  Why do "countries" need allocations?  
> Operators need address space.  Operators in a country need address 
> space.  But there is no reason that an operator operating in a 
> country, even if operating only in that country, needs address space 
> from an allocation directed to that country.
> From other messages I have seen, you probably are looking to do 
> something quite reasonable, but I can not quite determine what it is.
> Yours,
> Joel M. Halpern
>
> At 01:30 PM 11/18/2004, you wrote:
>
> > Paul Vixie wrote:
> >
> > > > How long have folks been predicting ~5yr windows?
> > > >    
> > > forever.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > > Not to diminish your table or anything, but markets don't work in
> > > > binary,
> > > > and the problem has been with access more than anything else. 
> > > >    
> > > i am directly aware of latent address space needs that are 50X larger
> > > than
> > > all of ipv4.  geoff huston's note hit this on the head. 
> > > "even at /29..."
> > >  
> > For the moment what I'm working on is on ensuring that countries can 
> > get assigned a reasonable amount of IPv6 space. A lot of countries 
> > are below radar in the IPv6 assignement. When you have a population 
> > of less than 100,000 and when the IPv6 minimum allocation caters for 
> > every human, pig, horse, dog and grain of sand of that country....
> > Yes this is a NIC problem, but I wanted to let you know. APNIC is 
> > aware of the needs fo small countries in their constituency, I guess 
> > there is a similar problem in the carabean and other places...
> > Cheers
> >
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