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RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2005-01-03 16:22:34
Bill Strahm <> supposedly scribbled:

I don't know how airline pricing works in .au - but here in the
.us
it seems that adding a short flight into a more regional airport
can
more than double the cost of an airplane ticket.  

Also note that a town of 100,000 will seldom have conference space
that can host a conference that attracts 1500 people - I know of
no
such facility in  Hillsboro (where I live) that is outside of
Portland (more a suburb, than a regional center).  I would be
interested in knowing what somewhere like Spokaine, Boise, or
other
smaller site might have.

I think that it might be possible in Spokane (grew up there but
haven't been back in years).  
     

Bill

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Subject: RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

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To: dassa(_at_)dhs(_dot_)org; 'IETF Discussion'
Subject: RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!
Dassa,

For better or worse, we've had a preference for locations close
to
major airports with significant international connections.
We haven't been consistent about it (note, e.g., San Diego),
but,
unlike that other organization whose name starts with "I"
(not IEEE, Glen), we have considered it a really bad thing if
most
of the attendees have to spend two days getting to and/or from a
meeting: turning a five-day meeting into an
eight- or nine-day one is really hard on those who have other
things to do besides going to meetings.    I have no idea how
the
boondocks 
of NSW would fall on that criterion, but it is what has kept us
near or in fairly major cities. 


Hello John

I was being a little tongue in cheek but the suggestion of
regional
centers being used is one I pursue for a lot of groups.  Living in
the country in a smallish city, a lot of meetings occur in the
capitals that I and others just don't get a chance to attend.  I'm
sure it would be the same in a lot of areas.  I can understand the
issues but the benefits all round may overcome them.  For instance
where I live is only an hour flight from Sydney, you ask, why
don't
you fly there for meetings and I have to explain, being in a
regional
area, the finances available for travel are limited. We       
tend to get paid less than equilivant workers in the capitals and
companies out here are less likely to approve spending on
non-essential travel.  
It is
also a fact that connections out in regional areas are often less
than optimal for most people so this has an impact for online
participation.  
It
is only recently I was able to get ADSL at home for instance and
operated for years with a dialup that meant long hours for
participation online and I missed a lot of broadcasts due to
downloading constraints.   

My suggestion is the IETF considers moving some meetings out to
regional centres within reasonable travel of the major ingress
airports in an effort to promote awareness and participation.
Within
the States and other countries, I'm sure there would be some
benefits
in holding meetings at cities with populations of 30,000 - 100,000
or
so rather than the capitals and other major cities with
populations
into the millions.      

There are issues with such locations and they may be
insurmountable
but I would like to see the idea considered.  Given more people
making lifestyle changes that involve moving away from major
cities,
it may become more important in the future.   

Darryl (Dassa) Lynch



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Hope this helps,

~gwz

Why is it that most of the world's problems can't be solved by
simply
  listening to John Coltrane? -- Henry Gabriel

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