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Re: "IETF servers aren't for testing"

2005-08-05 14:52:11
I will say even more. Just change to another ISP if you actual one can't
provide some kind of IPv6. This is the business case for IPv6 today,
offering good support to what the customer requires -> simply be up-to-date
with the technology trends.

They have no way to say that is expensive, difficult or whatever. There are
lots of choices which are valid for this situation (ordered by preference,
but all them will work at least as a temporary solution):

1) Ask them to upgrade their core network and access network. This means for
the ISP having at least one upstream provider providing native IPv6 service
(tunneled will also work in the worst case).
2) Ask them to upgrade only the core network and provide a transition
mechanism for the access (probably a configured tunnel will make it in this
case when not too many customers ask for it).
3) Ask them to just install a specific router to terminate both the tunnel
to the upstream provider and also towards the customers. This is in case the
current network really don't support an upgrade to IPv6 (which I tend to see
as just one excuse).

The worst case is that if you really can't find any ISP in the area to offer
the service, or the cost of moving to a new provider is too high, then find
a tunnel broker or configured tunnel which is not too far away. Today this
will come for free with lots of choices.

Regards,
Jordi




De: Kevin Loch <kloch(_at_)hotnic(_dot_)net>
Responder a: <ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Fecha: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 14:26:57 -0400
Para: IETF General Discussion Mailing List <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Asunto: Re: "IETF servers aren't for testing"

Jeroen Massar wrote:

The problem here seems to be more the fact that, in the US, getting IPv6
connectivity can be quite tiresome. Cogent, the current IPv4 upstream,
doesn't do IPv6 (they have 2001:500:2::/48) for instance. UUnet could
maybe do IPv6. Maybe the secretariat would wants to try out some tunnels?

If connectivity means a colocated server with IPv4 and IPv6 service,
that can easially be found in the US.  Finding an IPv6 ISP POP in
an arbitrary local town is quite a bit more difficult.

If these are just dedicated/colocated servers and IPv6 is a requirement,
move them to a hosting company that supports IPv6. If you are not
willing to take your business elsewhere then why should your current
hosts offer it?

- Kevin

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