Don't forget the organizations that adopt IETF specs. ISMA has a
regular interop and conformance program for RTSP + RTP + the codecs
used, both 'virtual' over the internet and face to face at most
meetings. Likewise IMTC does testing of 3GPP SA4 multimedia specs,
again using RTSP, RTP, codecs etc. I'm sure there are more.
Not that I am opposed to running code, sample code, or more IETF
bake-offs, mind you. Just that the number of organizations filling
the glass is more than it used to be.
At 15:12 -0400 10/08/05, C Wegrzyn wrote:
Perhaps they are more "regionalized". I know there are some "labs" like
at the UNH that hold them but the attendance isn't nearly as universal
as they once were.
As for statistics, no I don't have any. But I bet there aren't any more
-- in fact -- I would bet there are a lot less. I can't remember the
last SIP bake-off...
Chuck
Jari Arkko wrote:
C Wegrzyn wrote:
Hey, we not only had code that ran we also had "bake-offs" to make sure
all the stuff worked together. The idea was to work out the nuances (the
20% of the inaccuracies) and produce a damn good system. Today the idea
is to slap something together - damn the interop - and get out the door
for the "first mover advantage." We also tend to not worry about the
experience of the user - we expect them to understand our "Gold" is more
like fool's gold than a well thought out and tested system.
We still have bakeoffs. Or do you have some statistics that
show we have now less bakeoffs per RFC than we used to,
or that the bakeoffs are later than they used to be? ("We"
here is the internet community, the IETF doesn't hold
bakeoffs.)
--Jari
--
David Singer
Apple Computer/QuickTime
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