Avri,
Perhaps a better approach would be to have a
list posted somewhere of interdicted sites - along
with an explanation of the specific reasons why
they've been interdicted.
This would both remove all ambiguities and
allow members who would like to have a site removed
from that list to determine extactly what they would
have to address to do so.
--
Eric
--> -----Original Message-----
--> From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
--> [mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org]On Behalf Of
--> Avri Doria
--> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:38 PM
--> To: Jari Arkko
--> Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
--> Subject: Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria
-->
-->
-->
--> On 14 okt 2005, at 13.19, Jari Arkko wrote:
-->
--> > Freedom of expression is another matter, and would be slippery
--> > slope indeed. I think in most cases we would be better off
--> > being open and constructive, and helping more people understand
--> > what our views are than to refuse contact.
--> >
-->
-->
--> I agree, and that is why I tired to include specific
--> issues, though
--> admit that part needs greater specificity. I think the slippery
--> slope can be avoided by designating specific acts that make a site
--> unacceptable.
-->
--> One can safely argue that everywhere censures something, however,
--> some well known practices are more serious then others. Blocked
--> sites, redirected dns, registration and arrest of bloggers etc
--> stand out as things that can be stated specifically and not
--> subject
--> to much interpretation (ok, as anyone who knows me knows, i
--> believe
--> everything is subject to some degree of interpretation).
-->
--> As for being open and constructive, I agree that in
--> principle this is
--> a good goal. however, i beleive it is a goal that exists
--> on its own
--> slippery slope, a slope that ends in appeasement and
--> acquiescence to
--> practices we would prefer not to support. I think a better
--> path to
--> openness is to set a good example and to invite all to participate
--> and to make it easy for them to participate (ref. the visa
--> rules - i
--> also advocate subsidized attendance fees - but that is
--> another issue).
-->
--> a.
-->
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