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Re: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-18 08:09:58


Spencer Dawkins wrote:

Dear Ray (offlist)

Welcome to the wonderful world of guessing geek behavior.

I agree with Olafur on the symptom (people basically take December and/or January off), but wonder whether allowing more time will make any difference - we seem to produce about half the drafts within two weeks of a cutoff, no matter how long the interval between meetings is, and if we want to get more work done, having more deadlines (as happens when people must produce a document before an interim meeting) seems more helpful.

Deadlines are great - if it weren't for the last minute, nothing would get done. I wish folks would abide by them, especially getting agendas and presentations in. People want to know when and where, but most importantly they want to know "why" and "why" is the agenda. Registrations spike when the agenda begins to shape up. I think we would get more onsite attendance if the agenda could be promulgated earlier.
Ray


But I, too, am guessing what geeks really do, so I'll leave that to the professionals Good luck! :-)

Thanks,

Spencer

From: "Ray Pelletier" <rpelletier(_at_)isoc(_dot_)org>

Ólafur Guðmundsson wrote:

Ray,

Thanks for doing this it helps a lot.

I think the selection criteria needs one more variable:
        Time between meetings.


I agree.  I was particularly concerned with the Dec to March timeframe
as I believed there would be lower productivity during that period
leading up to the March meeting possibly resulting in less draft
progress.  I had computed the weeks in between but will revisit the
spacing with the other feedback.  Thanks
Ray


With 3 meetings a year 122 days is about right, but some times during the
year are less productive than others so we should try to space the
meetings out longer in those time periods.

In my experience the productivity between winter and spring meetings is the
lowest, due to multiple global holidays and corporate end of year
issues, as well as people in many countries, having to file their
taxes in this period.
I would like to see longer interval between these two meetings.

In the current schedule between
        Jul/2008  to Dec/2008  is 133
        Dec/2008  to Mar/2009  is 105
        Mar/2009  to Aug/2009  is 133
These meetings need to be better spaced.

IMHO, good spacing of meetings should be as an important criteria as
conflicts with other organizations.

        Olafur


At 06:58 17/05/2006, Ray Pelletier wrote:

All;

This is a 1 week Last Call for feedback on Version 01 proposed 2008 - 1010 IETF Meeting dates. The IAOC anticipates taking action to formally adopt dates on 25 May 2006. These dates differ from the originally proposed dates based upon community feedback, a review of meeting dates of those organizations on the Clash List and maintenance of a reasonably similar period between meetings. While every effort was made to avoid conflicts where known, it was not always possible with those organizations in the "should avoid" category. Your feedback to iad(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org on conflicts with these dates would be appreciated.

Proposed 2008 - 2010 meeting dates:

2008

IETF 71  Mar 30 - Apr 4

IETF 72  Jul 27 - Aug 1

IETF 73  Dec 7 - 12

2009

IETF 74  Mar 22 - 27

IETF 75  Aug 2 - 7

IETF 76  Dec 6 - 11

2010

IETF 77  Mar 28 - Apr 2

IETF 78  Jul 25 - 30

IETF 79  Dec 5 - 10

Our findings of the schedule of other organization's meetings can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/meetings/events.cal.html .

Thanks for your assistance.

Ray Pelletier
IAD

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