-----Original Message-----
From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brc(_at_)zurich(_dot_)ibm(_dot_)com]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:29 AM
To: richard(_at_)shockey(_dot_)us
Cc: 'IETF-Discussion'
Subject: Re: Now there seems to be lack of communicaiton here...
Richard Shockey wrote:
This seems to be on the IETF NOMCOM web page but I do not see it in the
ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org archives.
I suggest that given the unique importance of this NOMCOM cycle that a
fuller explanation is in order.
First .. the instant there was a problem the IETF community should have
been notified in full on this list.
This message is on its way to the ietf-announce list; that takes time
with several thousand subscribers. That is the appropriate list, not
this one.
Brian what in the world are you thinking? Given that the issue involved here
is the integrity of the NOMCOM process, it deserves no more notification
than a posting on the announce list?
Second ...a complete explanation of why this go screwed up should have
been posted to the community.
The message seems to give a complete explanation. Oversights happen. We
are a volunteer community, and any of us can overlook something, any time.
'Seems' is a very mild word here. I do not believe there is any malice
involved here only a severe lack of communication and consultation on an
issue that essentially disqualifies the entire elector slate.
Third .. the IETF community AS A WHOLE should have been consulted as to
possible remedies to this "problem" etc. Consultations to the IESG and
IAB > are not sufficient on matters of such gravity.
Actually the custodian of the process is, as I read RFC 3777, the ISOC
President. There is a formal dispute procedure defined in RFC 3777,
but Andrew took remedial action before anyone invoked that. Since
remedial action has been taken, I don't see an issue at this time.
Well I do. The suggestion that the selection process be respun is IMHO very
very serious and the incorrect solution here.
Why respin the entire list when it would have been just as easy to select
the next elector on the list?
IMHO options here should have been made clear before the decision was
ultimately made. I don't dispute the NOMCOM's right to make the decision
only that on a matter of such gravity input come from the community at
large.
This entire event has been very badly handled Brian.
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