At 19:34 11/09/2006, Pekka Savola wrote:
While I've procmailed Mr Glassey's ramblings, something always
spills over, and also detracts other IETF participants who then feed
the troll, and discussion is disrupted.
I'd be more than happy to support a move to ban Mr Glassey. Is it
time for a PR-action ?
Dear Pekka,
Let consider your proposition.
1. RFC 3683 turns out being far more than a problem. It was not a
priority of mine to reform the IETF, just to keep it credible and
interoperated in the language area, so ethic was a side issue
guaranteeing stability and preventing competition over influence.
What my case shown is that trying to PR-acting someone motivated by
an IETF reform, speaking good English, and with lawyer friends would
create a controversy that would really harm the IETF. My interest in
languages and Multilingual Internet is not a priority of most, while
the general good of the IETF is a priority for all.
2. basically what I understand from the global thread, Todd seems
concerned by what RFC 3774 names the "affinity group". I was
confronted to it. So, I know the private support I was proposed (he
will get still more). My strategy was weak to strong. I describe it
in my IAB appeal. A too important/emotional support of my position
would have confused the issues. So, it was my interest to cool the
emotion. It would proably not what Todd would do, sue to the issue..
IMHO, fighting the messenger is not the proper solution to the
problem. I frankly do not know what would be the good solution.
However, what I observed (and what Harald said a few times in saying
that the IETF was mostly a maintenance organisation) is that the
IAB/IESG/IETF/IRTF system lacks two entities. One is an interface
with the user's needs (I documented my proposition of an IGFTF, for
that and ethic, but my priority is language system interoperability).
The second one is an IDTF (Internet Development) aside of the IETF
and the IRTF, permitting to differentiate the maintenance of the
protocols and the practical development and experimentation of new concepts.
So, rather than PR-acting people because they contest the status-quos
(technologies, doctrine, administration) I think more interesting to
open new ways the users can benefit from.
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