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Re: do it yourself roots, was Something better than DNS?

2006-11-27 09:41:54
John Levine wrote:
If they can suck down all the top level zone files then it is easy
for them to publish an ALTERNATIVE DNS VIEW that contains their own
additions. Anyone who uses their view will then see the so-called
official DNS info as well as the overlay.


When I see claims like this, I really have to wonder how well people
understand the way that the DNS works.  If you want to publish your
own root that merges the real root (the one that the A through M root
servers publish with advice from ICANN) with stuff of your own, you
can do it now, and it wouldn't make any practical difference if you
could AXFR every zone in the world.

If you want to add your own TLDs, the easiest way to do it is to FTP
the root zone, which is easy and quite legal to get, add in your own
TLDs, and try and persuade people to use your servers.  The root zone
changes slowly, so downloading and remixing your root once a day would
be plenty.

...
 >
The real reason that alternate roots haven't caught on is that there
is no demand for them from the people who use the DNS.  (There's
plenty of demand from people who imagine they would get rich if they
could own .WEB or .SEX or whatever, but that's irrelevant.)  For all
of the failings of the current roots and of ICANN, with which as a
member of the ICANN ALAC I am extremely familiar, it works well enough
for the things that people use it for, and that shows no sign of
changing despite occasional efforts to screw it up like wildcards in
TLD zones.


John, there is demand for it.

To find out why, look at these domains:

Status China Root

soa("XN--55QX5D.","2006112704","CDNS3.CNNIC.NET.CN","210.52.214.86").
soa("XN--55QX5D.","2006112704","CDNS4.CNNIC.NET.CN","61.145.114.120").
soa("XN--55QX5D.","2006112704","CDNS5.CNNIC.NET.CN","61.139.76.55").
soa("XN--55QX5D.","2006112704","HAWK2.CNNIC.NET.CN","159.226.6.185").

soa("XN--FIQS8S.","2006112704","CDNS3.CNNIC.NET.CN","210.52.214.86").
soa("XN--FIQS8S.","2006112704","CDNS4.CNNIC.NET.CN","61.145.114.120").
soa("XN--FIQS8S.","2006112704","CDNS5.CNNIC.NET.CN","61.139.76.55").
soa("XN--FIQS8S.","2006112704","HAWK2.CNNIC.NET.CN","159.226.6.185").

soa("XN--IO0A7I.","2006112704","CDNS3.CNNIC.NET.CN","210.52.214.86").
soa("XN--IO0A7I.","2006112704","CDNS4.CNNIC.NET.CN","61.145.114.120").
soa("XN--IO0A7I.","2006112704","CDNS5.CNNIC.NET.CN","61.139.76.55").
soa("XN--IO0A7I.","2006112704","HAWK2.CNNIC.NET.CN","159.226.6.185").

Status Arab Root

soa("XN--IGBHZH7GPA.","12","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--LGBBAT1AD8J.","9","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--MGB2DDES.","9","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--MGBA3A5AZCI.","9","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--MGBA5B5CCEU.","9","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--MGBAH1A3HJKRD.","9","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--MGBAXP8FPL.","9","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--MGBB7FJB.","9","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--MGBB7FYAB.","9","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--MGBC0A9AZCG.","9","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--MGBCPQ6GPA1A.","9","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--MGBERP4A5D4AR.","2006111409","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--MGBG8EDVM.","9","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--MGBU4CHG.","9","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--NGBEE7IID.","9","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--WGBL6A.","5","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").
soa("XN--YGBI2AMMX.","9","AR-ROOT.NIC.NET.SA","212.26.18.12").

soa("XN--MGBAAM7A8H.","12652","NS1.UAENIC.AE","213.42.0.226").
soa("XN--MGBAAM7A8H.","12652","NS2.UAENIC.AE","195.229.0.186").

soa("XN--PGBS0DH.","2005062700","NS.ATI.TN","193.95.66.10").
soa("XN--PGBS0DH.","2005062700","NS2.ATI.TN","193.95.67.22").

Status I-DNS.NET

soa("XN--3RC8E2BB9H.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").
soa("XN--81B8B9A9C.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").
soa("XN--C1AVG.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").
soa("XN--E1APQ.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").
soa("XN--G2B9A1A.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").
soa("XN--I1B6B7E.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").
soa("XN--J1AEF.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").
soa("XN--P1AG.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").
soa("XN--P1AI.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").
soa("XN--QLC9A5A.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").
soa("XN--USC8B9A.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").
soa("XN--USCN1BV9BH3H.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").
soa("XN--VF4B131B.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").
soa("XN--ZB0BNW.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").
soa("XN--ZV4B74Y.","2006112608","NSA.I-DNS.NET","64.62.142.131").

Those people dont talk english and they dont use latin keyboerds.
That is why you never heard of them.


Kind regards
Peter and Karin

--
Peter and Karin Dambier
Cesidian Root - Radice Cesidiana
Rimbacher-Strasse 16
D-69509 Moerlenbach-Bonsweiher
+49(6209)795-816 (Telekom)
+49(6252)750-308 (VoIP: sipgate.de)
mail: peter(_at_)peter-dambier(_dot_)de
mail: peter(_at_)echnaton(_dot_)serveftp(_dot_)com
http://iason.site.voila.fr/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/iason/
http://www.cesidianroot.com/


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