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Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 17:57:25

Randall Gellens wrote:

At 3:59 PM -0500 1/17/07, John C Klensin wrote:

 --On Wednesday, 17 January, 2007 12:12 -0800 Randall Gellens
 <randy(_at_)qualcomm(_dot_)com> wrote:

  Does the second-to-last sentence refer to an ASCII address,
  or any  address?  The wording implies any address, but if
 an address is  non-ASCII, surely that is a good sign that
 the owner of that  address is an i18mail user?
  Right. The situation that is being warned against is taking
  an  ASCII address as a clear sign that the address owner is
 not an  i18mail user.

 I'd like to see the text improved to make this more clear.  As
 a suggestion, replace:

       Note that under this definition, it is not possible to
 tell from
       the address that an email sender or recipient is an
 i18mail user.

 with:

        Note that under this definition, it is not possible to
 tell from
        an ASCII address if an email sender or recipient is an
 i18mail
        user or not.

 Hmm.   One still  can't tell from a non-ASCII address that the
 recipient is an i18mail user or not, one can only tell that the
 sender thinks that user is.

 I'm happy to make the change Randy suggests unless others object
 (I think it improves things).  But, if we are going to do so,
 let's figure out text to be sure things are completely right.
 In that context, it seems to me as if the suggested replacement
 sentence needs an additional few words.  Suggestions welcome.

How about:

Replace:

     Note that under this definition, it is not possible to tell from
     the address that an email sender or recipient is an i18mail user.

with:

      Note that under this definition, it is not possible to tell from
      an ASCII address if an email sender or recipient is an i18mail
      user or not.  (A non-ASCII address implies that the owner of
      that address is an i18mail user.)

Replaced text looks a lot better, I am a little bit concerned that the relation between "an ASCII address" and "an sender / recipient" is looser than I want it be. /* As a non-native, I feel always nervous when word-smithing */

Can we me make the relation clearer if we changed it a little bit? For instance;

Note that under this definition, it is not possible to tell
whether an email sender or recipient is an i18mail user or not
if his/her address is an ASCII address.

Regards


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