Eric-
It sounds like your argument is: "We're too incompetent to say our names
at the mic, so we're probably too incompetent to use a RFID system."
Did I get that right?
While I'm certainly not going to defend the competence of every IETF
participant, I don't find much merit in that argument. In my
(unscientific) first-hand experiences, it seems that most people do
manage to wear their nametags at the meeting. And many of the names on
those tags are of cultural origins other than my own, i.e. from a
non-English speaking country. If I could actually see the name of the
person speaking, it seems like a great improvement over hearing a name
which is unintelligible to my ears or hearing no name at all. And if
somebody forgets their RFID-badge, then I'm no worse off than I am
today.
In other words, I think we could come up with a system that worked well
enough to be a net improvement over our current operational model.
On the other hand, I am amused by your idea of scanning the streets for
RFID responses that look like IETF-badges. Then my robot army could
track down and kill all IETF participants whom oppose my plans to take
over the Internet! Or maybe I could just use them for some fun practical
jokes instead...
Cheers,
-Benson
________________________________
From: Eric Gray (LO/EUS)
[mailto:eric(_dot_)gray(_at_)ericsson(_dot_)com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 4:56 PM
To: Andrew G. Malis
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic)
Andy,
The problem is that we are a perpetually forgetful crowd. In
particular, we
tend to forget to take our badges off when we wander around
town. Hence,
it is likely that more people will be able to tell where we are
than those who
we intend to know where we are.
Kind of goes with the tendency to forget to identify
yourself at the mike.
So, we get a nice RFID protective wallet and - remembering
how absent
minded we are - we keep our name tags (with all of our other
RFID badges,
and passes) in that protective wallet.
As a result, unless you need to get it out to get into a
room, it will likely
be inside that protective wallet most of the week. On the plus
side, that
means I won't be the only one who forgets to put my name tag on.
On the
negative side, an RFID name tag - especially one that is in a
protective
wallet - is not particularly human readable. At least - if we
remember to put
them on - the current name tags are fairly easy to read.
Did I mention how forgetfull we tend to be? I thought so,
but I don't
remember...
--
Eric Gray
Principal Engineer
Ericsson
________________________________
From: Andrew G. Malis [mailto:agmalis(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:45 AM
To: Eric Gray (LO/EUS)
Cc: David Morris; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic)
Importance: High
Eric,
Why not? We each already receive a unique identifier
when we register for the meeting - all the RFID tag needs to contain is
that identifier, no personal info is required.
There could also be an opt-in locator service to let
other attendees look up what meeting room you're in at that time. I
would opt in - I'm alrways trying to find particular people during the
week, and this would certainly help people to find me.
Cheers,
Andy
On 3/27/07, Eric Gray (LO/EUS)
<eric(_dot_)gray(_at_)ericsson(_dot_)com>
wrote:
Excellent idea - NOT!!!
All we need is something else to wrap in
aluminum foil...
Thanks!
--
Eric Gray
Principal Engineer
Ericsson
________________________________
From: Andrew G. Malis
[mailto:agmalis(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:55 AM
To: David Morris
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RFID (was: identifying yourself
at the mic)
RFID would be a great way to replace the
blue sheets as well - put an RFID reader at the door of each meeting
room. Embed the chip in the name tag so you don't need to remember to
bring anything else from your hotel room in the morning.
Cheers,
Andy
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Schliesser, Benson
wrote:
Sun has been pushing RFID technology
quite heavily ... perhaps they would
sponsor an experiment???
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