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Re: [Ltru] Possible RFC 3683 PR-action

2008-03-21 11:12:48
Hi -

My co-chair Martin Duerst and I, and the three independent ltru working
group participants we asked (as well as some we didn't ask), are
convinced that "LB" is a sock-puppet for JFC Morfin.  In consultation
with Chris Newman, the responsible area director, we set the
"moderated" bit for that subscriber address on the working group
mailing list. If "LB" believes we have acted inappropriately, "LB" is
free to follow the appeal process described in section 6.5  of RFC 2026.

However, the vocabulary, style, content, and peculiar world-view of
this latest missive leave me more convinced than ever that "LB"
is indeed JFC Morphin, and that under the terms of RFC 3683
we are well justified in suspending the posting privileges for that

ltru co-chair

From: "LB" <lbleriot(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
To: "russ Housley" <housley(_at_)vigilsec(_dot_)com>
Cc: <ietf(_at_)mltf(_dot_)org>; <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Ltru] Possible RFC 3683 PR-action

Dear Sir,
Like other members of the multilinguistic working list to which I
belong, since 2002 I received a copy of the mails exchanged between
JFC Morfin and your organization, on IDNs then langtags. And we have
often discussed them. I do not thus ignore big matter of this subject

As JFC Morfin got everything we wanted except again:
(1) that the WG-IDNABIS quickly demonstrates the merits of IDNA or
finds a better solution.
(2) that the RFC 4646 is respected by the IESG what also calls for the
RFC 4646bis underway.
I proposed to replace him as an IETF watcher, given the importance of
his current work.

In two months, I sent a half-dozen of messages and received courteous
answers. Of course I expected a possible ostracism. I was prepared to
respond with kind understanding. This was the case with Brian
Carpenter. He accused me of being JFC Morfin in an humorous but a way
a little hurtful. We exchanged and he had the courtesy to apologize
willingly and  and to inform the IESG about it.

I would have done the same with Randy Preshun if contacted me, even
impolitely, even after having ignored my question about a significant
breakthrough for us he implied, even after that he probably pushed a
"trap" by misrepresenting our position and that of ISO. Instead, he
dashes into a guerilla of racist censorship against me: it is because
of the MLTF ideas that he accuses me of not being me.

2008/3/20, Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn(_at_)mindspring(_dot_)com>:
Hi -

 There have been expressions of support, and no objections on this list,
 to the proposed metric (and one off-list objection by JFC Morfin) for
 identifying possible sock-puppets of those whose posting privileges
 have been revoked pursuant to RFC 3683.  So, we're using it.

 We engaged the procedure with three independent working group participants.
 All three identified the same email address, which was also identified by 
 responsible area director and both co-chairs.  Consequently, future 
 from lbleriot(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com will not be delivered, since we believe 
this address
 is a sock-puppet for JFC Morfin.

 ltru co-chair

You will understand that I have reached an age where I am not
impressed anymore and that I have time for a good cause:
-- or Randy Preshun apologizes and it stays there.
-- or he has suspended my rights without warning and is preparing for
a PR action against me without any reason. He does it with the support
of our two direct commercial competitors in his WG. Under these
conditions you will understand that I am not to be giving anything
that enables them to validate a practice of arbitrary exclusion of the
IETF. Today I, whom tomorrow?
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