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Re: IETF Last Call for two IPR WG Dcouments

2008-03-27 12:18:08


--On March 27, 2008 10:33:24 AM +0100 Olaf Kolkman 
<olaf(_at_)NLnetLabs(_dot_)nl> 
wrote:
I would think that the document would gain in clarity if it explicitly
ties the incoming rights to the streams as defined in RFC4844 and also
explicitly calls out that if new streams would be defined those should
specifically define if and how rights are transferred to the IETF Trust.

I would have to agree with the above, and say further that the
the IAB should make sure that the entities responsible for
the non-IETF streams are okay with the result.

When writing the streams definitions, it was clear that there was a
lot of material that was spread across existing documents without
clear delineation between "IETF" or "non-IETF" documents, let
alone further refinement into what has become "streams".  THat's
understandable, historically, but we should be clearer going
forward.  Breaking it out, as you suggest, would be consistent
with that goal.

Leslie.



While reviewing the documents I tried to determine how the 4 streams
currently defined in RFC4844 fit into the framework.

Although the stream is not specifically mentioned it is clear that the
incoming rights document applies to the IETF Stream.

To me it is clear that a contribution to the IAB is explicitly bound by
the rules (including the No Duty to Publish rule, that allows for
confidential information to be supplied to the IAB), so are contributions
from the IAB, i.e. IAB stream document. I conclude this from the fact
that "IAB" is part of the IETF under the definition in 1.e. However, I
may be over-interpreting, and the status of the incoming rights for the
IAB stream is also not captured.

The independent stream document are clearly excluded by section 4 of the
document.

It is not quite clear where the IRTF stream document live. This could be
fixed in a document which defines the IRTF stream.

I would think that the document would gain in clarity if it explicitly
ties the incoming rights to the streams as defined in RFC4844 and also
explicitly calls out that if new streams would be defined those should
specifically define if and how rights are transfered to the IETF Trust.



--Olaf (no hats)





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