The folks to contact are the IAOC. The IETF Chair is on the IAOC.
As to visa issues, as Randy opines, the issue tends to be visa
processing. Depending on country pair, there are interesting issues
around the globe. The US Embassies in China and Russia seem to not
have IETF attendance on their list of important events for the Chinese
or Russians to attend - or anything else that happens in the US. Last
year, when I was asked to speak at RANS and specifically speak on a
panel chaired by the Colonel-General that runs Department K
(cybercrime) of the Russian police, the FSB decided that they needed
to look at my visa application, and calmly told me that the
announcement would come on the day that I was to speak. We could
discuss, as someone else mentioned in this thread, the gymnastics
necessary to enter China last summer; I visited in June, August, and
October, and went through some serious dance steps each time.
We could discuss the various countries in the middle east, or what
folks in Asia often call "western asia"; 'nuff said. And then there is
China vs Taiwan, regardless of how you parse the Taiwan Straits issue.
I would be hesitant to drag the IETF into world politics; the law of
Unintended Consequences was invented to describe politics, I think.
On Nov 18, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Gene Gaines wrote:
Two points:
1) As a U.S. citizen, I apologize for the statement made on this
thread
by qdang(_at_)nist(_dot_)gov(_dot_) I quietly suggest to all that it be
ignored.
I am he misspoke -- perhaps the laptop slipped in his lap at
IETF73.
2) Again as a U.S. citizen, I will contact the IETF Chair and ISOC
management
to volunteer to assist in resolving the issue of IETF meeting
attendance.
There is substantially less of a problem here than most
realize. The real
issue is certainty -- the IETF needs to obtain clear
instructions, obtain the
cooperation of U.S. government officials so that people from
any country
can know well in advance AND WITH CERTAINTY the process of
applying
for and obtaining authorization for attending an IETF meeting
anywhere in
the world.
If this cannot be accomplished, then the IETF should not meet
in that
country.
Gene Gaines
Sterling, Virginia USA
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Melinda Shore <mshore(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>
wrote:
On 11/18/08 2:16 PM, "Randy Bush" <randy(_at_)psg(_dot_)com> wrote:
>> How would you solve the problem?
> hold the meetings in non-terrorist countries. i.e. not the united
states.
I don't know what that means. Canada, for example, is a peacekeeper
nation that requires visas for entry from countries from which there
are
many IETF participants (India, China). Is the issue the visa
requirement
itself or is it how visas are processed?
Melinda
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