On 28 nov 2008, at 19:20, John C Klensin wrote:
At any given meeting, in any given timezone, that will always be
the cost for some people: meeting on Friday morning equals not
getting home until Saturday morning and possibly not until late
Saturday night or Sunday. That, to me, is the bottom line --
whether IETF is really important to all of us to justify giving
up two consecutive weekends.
Personally, I'm not too worried about the lost weekend, but the issue
with flying on saturday and arriving on sunday is that it doesn't
allow for any time zone adjustment before the new week begins.
But like I said, the meeting slots won't be popular because fewer
people will show up. But at least with a friday slot there is the
OPTION to stay for those who care enough, or aren't particularly
inconvenienced, when sessions are scheduled at the same time no such
option exists. And scheduling conflicts have been an ongoing issue for
me.
Since many people leave thursday or friday early anyway, there is only
a relatively small difference between the number of people attending
friday afternoons vs friday mornings so I don't think the reduced ease
of flight scheduling can be definitive argument against partial friday
afternoons.
Note that, while there are more exceptions than there used to
be, most flights to the US from Europe leave late morning or
early afternoon.
Didn't we have this same discussion earlier this year?
There are options from San Francisco to Europe at 1530, 1625, 1730 and
2000.
From Stockholm to the US west coast it's a different story: no point
in leaving after ~1300 because then the travel time gets much longer,
may as well stay the extra day. Within Europe the options are very
limited as well. I guess we should meet in London, Frankfurt,
Amsterdam or Paris, that makes things a lot easier.
I would much rather see the IESG working with WGs to make sure
they do what they are supposed to be doing, which involves most
of their work by email
They already do that. It doesn't seem to reduce the need for timeslots.
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