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Re: Subscriptions to "ietf-honest"

2009-03-25 13:28:12
Joe Abley wrote:

On 23-Mar-2009, at 14:35, Melinda Shore wrote:

I was auto-subscribed to Dean's "ietf-honest" mailing
list, and I'm unhappy about it.

As I think was mentioned a day or two ago on this list, the reasonable
way I found to avoid these auto-subscriptions to ietf-honest was to
block packets from the originating network. I had a very enjoyable few
days following the installation of those packet filters.

However, it now seems that (a) any address I've used in the past is now
fair game, and not just the addresses I'm using today, and (b) it's not
just the ietf list, but working group lists too, e.g. see below. I don't
have the same ability to do server-side filtering or packet blocking on
other mail accounts.

Seems he wants the core of the Internet to apply those filters...

I must say that I love the wording:

This list was created by IADL.ORG (www.iadl.org) because of dishonest
filtering by the IESG.  See http://www.av8.net/IETF-watch for more
information on the corrupt activities of officials of the Internet
Society, Inc (ISOC) IETF Activity, and their connection to other
corrupt activities.

Those are clear allegations of corruption. Isn't that what the IETF
calls an ad-hominum attack? Wasn't there something about that about
causing subscriptions to be able to be blocked etc?


You were probably added to this list because you participated in
DNSOP(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org discussion, and that list is used to determine
consensus for ISOC IETF Activity actions. Consensus is a democratic
activity of the ISOC, which is a U.S. non-profit, tax exempt
membership corporation. ALL members of the ISOC IETF have a property
right to participate in its democratic decision processes.   [see U.S.
v. Local 560, extortion (Hobbs Act) and racketeering by mafia that
took over a Union and tried to prevent participation by those opposing
the mafia]

Nice one, the IETF is compared to the Mafia.

[..] IETF representatives (e.g. Working Group Chairs) have a duty
to the  corporation to read email sent to them on IETF business, and
should not try to unsubscribe.

And here it goes: as a WG chair you are not able to unsubscribe, you are
not even allowed to try. Nice Mafia-alike practice.

I didn't know that the IETF was incorporated btw. All news to me ;)

Greets,
 Jeroen

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