I suggest that all mail that is cross posted to Mr Andreson IETF-Honest or
whatever other spam list Mr Spammer decides to create be blocked from all IETF
lists.
That way any IETF-er who feeds the troll will not anoy the rest. And any
IETF-er who blacklists Mr Spammer and his spam lists will have an Anderson-free
experience.
Since Mr Spammer's objective here is to cause the spillover into the IETF list,
it is my expectation that he will cease this particular tactic.
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From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org on behalf of Von Wootten, Karl
Sent: Tue 3/24/2009 7:29 PM
To: 'Ole Jacobsen'; Dean Anderson
Cc: ietf-honest(_at_)lists(_dot_)iadl(_dot_)org; Fred Baker; 'IETF Discussion
Mailing List'
Subject: RE: Subscriptions to "ietf-honest"
Dean,
I feel that this issue has gone on Long enough It seems to me that by not
allowing people to opt out and by unsolicited subscriptions you are only
damaging your own reputation. I read what is posted to the lists I subscribe to
so that I can do my job better. Not to waste time with these silly flame wars.
Can we please put an end to this?
Karl von Wootten
System Engineer Infrastructure Services
NSW Department of Education and Training
Ph: 02 84254515
Mob: 0406 996 300
Fax: 02 9942 9638
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From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen
Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2009 9:41 AM
To: Dean Anderson
Cc: ietf-honest(_at_)lists(_dot_)iadl(_dot_)org; Fred Baker; 'IETF Discussion
Mailing List'
Subject: Re: Subscriptions to "ietf-honest"
Dean,
The web interface is broken. I don't have the initial password and it
won't send me a new one.
Please cease and desist this nonsense and unsubscribe me promptly, I
never asked to be on your list, nor did anyone else that you added.
You're a spammer, plain and simple.
Ole
Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
E-mail: ole(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Dean Anderson wrote:
The password was sent in the subscription mail. The mailing list
manager is GNU mailman, which is the same software many of the IETF
lists uses, including IETF(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org(_dot_) List management is the
same, and
the welcome message includes the password. In addition, mailman provides
a web interface, which can be found at:
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.iadl.org/mailman/options/ietf-honest>,
<mailto:ietf-honest-request(_at_)lists(_dot_)iadl(_dot_)org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.iadl.org/pipermail/ietf-honest>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf-honest(_at_)lists(_dot_)iadl(_dot_)org>
List-Help:
<mailto:ietf-honest-request(_at_)lists(_dot_)iadl(_dot_)org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.iadl.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-honest>,
<mailto:ietf-honest-request(_at_)lists(_dot_)iadl(_dot_)org?subject=subscribe>
RFC2369 headers are included in each list message.
Logs show that Ole Jacobsen was added on February 28, 2009, after a post
to the IETF list.
--Dean
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
I think he added the ietf list as a whole. When I tried to
unsubscribe it said I needed a password which it never sent,
so I assume I am not "on" his list the strict sense.
Ole
Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
E-mail: ole(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Fred Baker wrote:
well, question. Did he actually do that, or did he make a mailing list
that
has one member - the IETF list - to which he can add other members as he
chooses?
You may recall that at some point in the past we had the opposite.
Someone set
up a mailing list that was subscribed to ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org and
filtered some of
our more interesting personalities. Folks that subscribed to it go a feed
without the comments of (or replies to) those individuals. Many moved
their
subscriptions.
Are you asking the Trust, or the IETF leadership, to send a cease and
desist
letter?
On Mar 23, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Melinda Shore wrote:
I was auto-subscribed to Dean's "ietf-honest" mailing
list, and I'm unhappy about it. I don't know what his
current status is with regard to the ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
mailing list but I think he's pretty clearly abusing
this mailing list by snagging names from it and
putting us on his mailing list without asking. I'm also
not thrilled that the "welcome" message he sends out
fails to clearly identify who's sending it and that
he does not represent the IETF. This is a small problem
but a problem nonetheless.
Melinda
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