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Re: IETF 78 Annoucement

2009-05-25 03:12:32
John C Klensin wrote:


--On Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:02 PM -0700 Dave CROCKER <dcrocker(_at_)bbiw(_dot_)net> wrote:

What do you think the incremental cost is, for making 1000
senior engineers people take an additional 8 hours (4 each
way) and pay for an additional leg of travel.

I'm not quite sure how a 1:50 or 2:30 hour train ride translates
to 4 hours of extra travel time.  Anyway, during those hours, you
will be sitting on a chair as comfortable as in most planes.  I'd
think that most of us do what IETF'ers typically do: open their laptop
and start working.

Incidentally, is is those "lost time" costs that most concern me. I'm worried about airplane and other connections, but far more in terms of lost time and what people are expected to do after getting off a long flight than in terms of any absolute "hub airport" principle. From that point of view, the "hub airport" principle is just a surrogate for some harder-to-measure issues.

At Schiphol, getting on the train to Maastricht is as easy as getting
on a taxi to downtown Amsterdam, with the added advantage that the driver
of the train cannot rip you off by taking a longer route than necessary.
Trains leave about every 15 minutes.  The wait for a taxi is about 5 to
10 minutes, depending on the time of day.

I'm happy to post detailed instructions closer to the time of the
meeting.

Henk

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