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Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-opsawg-operations-and-management(Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management of NewProtocols and Protocol Extensions) to BCP

2009-06-04 15:54:56
To put it differently, the OPS area has as much right to propose their requirements as any other area (Transport Congestion, Security, ...) has. And generally, the community has listened to such requests and gone along with them.

Yes, we have produced a bit of a problem that our initial standards now have a quality bar comparable with completed work. But we shouldn't suddenly pick on OPS for that. If we are going to address that problem, it ought to be in a coherent fashion that discusses how we deal with all the legitimate requirements, including the fact that stuff has to be operable.

This does not mean we have to simply accept what they (OSP) say. But it does mean we should give it a fair review, looking at the details, rather than objecting on principle.

Yours,
Joel M. Halpern


Sam Hartman wrote:
"Eric" == Eric Rosen <erosen(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com> writes:

    Eric> I don't see that OPSAWG has any business imposing
    Eric> requirements on work done by other WGs in other Areas.

Obviously I agree with this statement.  However I do believe that the
ops area can propose and build consensus on requirements that we all
agree to follow.  I think this document may be a starting point in
such a discussion.  I think Eric and I probably both agree it should
not be the final word.
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