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Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
The deliberative process of NOMCON means that it is more likely that
consensus will be reached on the candidates that fewest people object
to rather than those that have the strongest support.
Deliberation means that weak objections are as likely to be influenced
by discussions by strong supporters. I.e., deliberation can just as
easily contributes to amplification of strong support, rather than
suppression of it.
Tuning the process is fine, but let's not be deluded into thinking it
will be any better than "flawed, but sufficient". Selectees don't need
to be (further) encouraged they've been anointed by some perfect process.
We should be considering Nomcom's primary role in making the shortlist,
i.e., in making a threshold. Frankly, the community would be better
served IMO by selecting from among the shortlist using the same (random)
process used in selecting the Nomcom.
Joe
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Joe Touch<touch(_at_)isi(_dot_)edu> wrote:
Melinda Shore wrote:
SM wrote:
Hi Phillip,
At 08:32 10-06-2009, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
A more useful change would be to abolish NOMCON and for those
currently qualified to sit on NOMCON to elect the IAB and ADs
directly.
The implications of the above is much more than publicizing the IETF
list of nominees. The discussion of that document highlighted how a
simple statement like "we want an open list" is not as simple as it
sounds.
Indeed. Having elections means determining who's
eligible to vote, and that has all kinds of cascading
consequences.
We already have that. The only difference is that:
- voters are selected randomly from among those not "running for office"
- voters are required to participate in interviews and meetings, which
may make them more informed
In the end, though, all voting systems are popularity contests.
Joe
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