Re: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)
2010-02-22 16:12:38
Well yes, everybody's right in this area, since the terminology
is so fuzzy and so infected by marketing noise. In any case, I am
not for a moment saying: don't hold a Bar BOF. It seems like an
excellent idea to talk about it. What I am saying is: our sister
standards body the OGF seems like the natural home for this
topic, and we have to be very precise in defining scope to avoid
overlap and confusion.
Regards
Brian
On 2010-02-23 10:15, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
I agree with Dave and offer the following article (in two parts) for
further background reading. (The second part will be available in
printed form in Anaheim):
http://www.cisco.com/web/about/ac123/ac147/archived_issues/ipj_12-3/123_cloud1.html
and
http://www.cisco.com/web/about/ac123/ac147/archived_issues/ipj_12-4/124_cloud2.html
(Whole issues can also be downloaded in PDF format).
We now return to our regular scheduled programming and discussions
about how to get from various airports to Disneyland.
Ole
Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
E-mail: ole(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Dave CROCKER wrote:
Having recently gone through the exercise of trying to understand what these
different terms actually meant, I discovered that the underlying problem is
that you are both right, as are a variety of other people who have other
views...
As already noted, the term 'cloud' is now used in many different ways,
including as a synonym for 'network' and for 'Internet', even amongst
technical folk. (Really.)
There are some people who have very specific and nuanced technical
definitions, including distinguishing cloud from grid. But no set of
definitions seems to have a broad base of support.
For defining 'cloud', one group I'm participating in decided it was happy
with
the NIST language:
<http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/cloud-computing/cloud-def-v15.doc>
d/
--
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net
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