I agree here with Hadriel.
If you don't have a badge because you didn't register and pay the fee then you
don't belong here. If you lost or forgot your badge then I'm sure the
secretariat would fix it and issue you a new one if you were registered.
I didn't notice any oppressive security here- just smiling helpful people who
insist on opening the meeting room doors for you.
I seem to vaguely remember a long past IETF (maybe Washington DC) where in at
least one WG we were asked to to wave our badges before the start of the
session to show we were all legitimate attendees. So I don't think checking
badges is totally new.
Whether this was initiated by the hosts is in my view not relevant. The IETF
rules state you need to pay the fees and register. If the host asks that those
rules are enforced then so what. A prerequisite of any meeting is that you
comply with the local regulations. If those regulations are not counter to IETF
rules then there should be no issue. If they were then that's a different
matter. Having some security checks on strangers protects to some extent the
petty thefts of laptops that have become a frequent problem at meetings in
large hotels.
If the hosts were the primary driver for the checks (which seemed innoculous to
me - but then I had me badge - but I doubt most of the (mainly) ladies on the
doors were capable of putting most of us in an strong arm lock and marching us
to exit door either) then they may have had very good and legit reasons such as
compliance with insurance liability, fire regulations etc.
Its also maybe more likely they were protecting against a bunch of free loaders
feeding off the incredibly provisoned food at the breaks.
I really don't see what all the fuss is about.
Andrew
----- Original Message -----
From: Hadriel Kaplan [mailto:HKaplan(_at_)acmepacket(_dot_)com]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:56 PM
To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter(_at_)stpeter(_dot_)im>
Cc: Dave CROCKER <dhc2(_at_)dcrocker(_dot_)net>; Henk Uijterwaal
<henk(_at_)ripe(_dot_)net>; dcrocker(_at_)bbiw(_dot_)net
<dcrocker(_at_)bbiw(_dot_)net>; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
<ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Subject: Re: [79all] IETF Badge
On Nov 11, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
Security on the terminal room is long-standing. It has equipment in it.
To be fair, so might the meeting rooms (audio equipment, projectors,
etc.). Perhaps in this instance the hotel was concerned about theft of
such equipment.
Equipment?? Considering the prices in the lobby bar, they were clearly
protecting the coffee and tea!
-hadriel
p.s. I for one am glad they had strict badge checking - we're in the middle of
a major city, and I don't want to worry about leaving my bag/laptop by my seat
in a meeting room when I go up to the mic. (which in my case is too often)
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