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Re: Call for a Jasmine Revolution in the IETF: Privacy, Integrity,

2011-03-11 11:03:55
Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:

1) WPA/WPA2 is not an end to end protocol by any stretch of imagination.
   It is link layer security.

It is a 100% end-to-end security protocol.

A protocol that by design is not end-to-end security might be SMTPS.
which is why end-users are usually not even aware when and where it
is used.



2) My argument was based on usage by the billion plus Internet users.

I don't think more than about 5% of Internet users have ever used one of the
protocols you mention.

WPA/WPA2 (and formerly WEP) is likely used by >50% of the internet
users in Germany.  Based on court decisions (filesharing) about
liabilities for running open WLANs, _not_ to use WPA/WPA2 can be a pretty
expensive risk.


-Martin
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